Pornography: Thoughts & Questions
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of Montreal: current.com 2. Noam Chomsky criticizing pornography: www.youtube.com 3. American Booksellers Association v. Hudnut and Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition: www.bc.edu www2.law.cornell.edu 4. Section 2354 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on pornography: www.scborromeo.org 5. Some interesting comments on pornography by Jeffrey Escoffier at a talk given at The CUNY Graduate Center: www.youtube.com … pornography sexually explicit obscenity law legal Constitution pron First …
I appreciate that you are very hung up on one or two kinds of behavior, but I have already told you in a rainbow of ways that “depravity” comes in many flavors and that they are, over all, spread evenly… so just as with most other human traits, men and women both have their own trends and tendencies, but one only outshine the other in the eyes of the prejudiced.
The issue of children having access to much of anything is more or less the same issue it has always been to me, before and after the internet… parents have allowed themselves to think of schools as being the things that raise their children and have become lazy in exercising their responsibilities to monitor and shape their children’s experiences… if kids are getting ahold of porn it is because of what individual families are or aren’t doing…
In short, NOT society’s problem to fix.
well look at the rape statistics in any country and the grand majority and sometimes all, depending on the country, are men.
Thanks for the comment. I think that in the main the efforts to keep children from having easy access to pornography are successful. Of course, the Internet presents some new problems — or new twists on old problems — but it doesn’t seem that they’re beyond dealing with well short of banning pornography.
Hey, Prof. Pornography is much like the “nuclear genie”. Even if you wanted to, you can’t stuff it back into the bottle. I offer no solution. I do feel, however, that porn’s pervasive nature leaves simple innocence vulnerable, primarily with respect to children. Even with content controls, how do we keep it from children and is it important enough to us as a society to make a concerted effort to delay the onset of maturity in order to maintain innocence if for only a little longer?
Penn and Teller did an episode of Bullshit! where they pointed out that two major US government studies on pornography revealed there is NO evidence that it is harmful to society in any way.
Check it out.
Yeah, too bad it isn’t a fact. It is your opinions; a rather shallow opinion based on the classic logical fallacy of all bigots.
Some members of A seem to be X therefore all members of A are unavoidably X.
It is almost universally false, including this case. And your unwavering embrace of this particular depravity demonstrates it perfectly. And like most prejudice people, you are largely incapable of seeing it…at least you serve as a good example to others that women are not all roses.
LOL, I do not think I should even dignify this with a response.
well not sugar coating the fact that men are more depraved and a more danger to humanity and other species is not being shallow.
Nowhere did I say what you should or should not do. Only you have made such statements. My position: If it’s okay for that couple, that’s fine, even if it’s not okay for mine.
Your opinion, at least as you made it sound up until now, was: That’s dirty and wrong, and you’re cheating regardless of how you both actually feel. That’s what boggles. You decided what was cheating for us.
But yes, I’m judging you as being close minded and very presumptuous… and as having poor reading comprehension.
I do hope you are being sarcastic. If not though, I suppose I would technically have to agree, but only because it is hard to film anything in an anarchy. Also, you seem to think that there is no such thing as free amateur porn… something that I assure you exists in spades.
It seemed you were holding his opinion up as mattering, and something you agreed with. Hence, why I was asking you.
Unless Dr.Phil is around…
I guess I just don’t share your enthusiasm for authority.
People believing they know what’s best for others is ordinary. Believing they can form some kind of vanguard or elite who should be deputized to police others is something I cannot abide.
“you sound sexist too…”
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was in no way expressing my own opinion on the matter. Those generalizations about women were purely an example of your own logic applied in reverse. It is really quite sad to see you assume everyone shares your own shallow standards.
I think women were far more surpressed back when showing an ankle was considered obscene! Probaly there is an inverse relationship between female surpression and male viewing of pornography. An outlet for the “shadow” perhaps? Just a thought.
Men are programmed by the environment they grow up in. Just look at these movies Hollywood churns out – the opening scene is always an ass and a titty shot of a woman.
uhhh……how “young” are you talking about? Men are only programmed by society. Go study anthropology.
You do have a point. It’s just that the pro-raunch crowd on here thinks pornography is the most wonderfully wonderful thing they have ever seen. These are real dangers that we even went over in Psychology back in college. It should be illegal to have adult females portrayed as fuckable underage girls. This occurs in regular movies (not porn) too.
Yeah, remove the monetary system and most of it would go away.
People judge every day – just like you judging me because I am of the opinion that “I don’t like it”. Why do you care that I don’t personally want to go fuck around on my husband? lol
So, all atheists are supposed to want to go around fucking other people because you say they should?
Why are you asking me? Go ask Dr. Phil.
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Well, simply put – males generally come into this world with a marked “power” advantage over females. And in environments of privation, that’s going to lead to the brutalization of males, and in turn, that will spill over onto women.
IOW. a great deal of what men “do” or can “get away with” is purely a species of ability.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve never considered persons who are “virtuous” in deed for simply having a lack of opportunity to be really “superior” to anyone.
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Well, selection has created a marked discrepancy between male and female morphology in human beings, wrt. to general physical strength and durability to assault. It’s been theorized this was a consequence of the first division of labor amongst human hunger-gatherers; males as hunters and somewhat expendable risk takers, with females as gatherers minding children in less dangerous environments. A much better survival strategy than everyone going along on dangerous hunts, etc
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Again, try for a moment to “imagine” another perspective. What I said previously had nothing to do with empirical observation, but perception and self interest.
For instance, if one were really interested in the “science” of it all, it would be impossible to avoid the issue of power relationships between human beings. Much that we find fearful and objectionable about others, is an exercise of “ability.” And similarly, much “evil” doesn’t occur precisely for a lack of ability.
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My problem is that I have a hard time being outraged with reality, at least in complete divorce from underlying causes.
Railing on “porn”, IMHO. is much like railing on the thievery and criminality of impoverished communities, with little consciousness of why said situations exists.
I believe in “getting to the roots” (“radicalism.”)
Where pornography is “problematic”, is precisely where capitalism is problematic. Porn is also largely a consequence of male frustration wedded to opportunity.