A question from a reader: like, what does the nondenominational part mean?
just wondering, thanks!
Nondenominational to me has always meant not following one particular denomination of the faith, but I could be wrong as I so often seem to be on here.
between 5 to 7 sacraments, structure of authority, authority of the Bible, and thousands of pending law suits.
night and day
Non-denominational Christians don’t have saints, confession, or worship Mary.
Do a traditionectomy
Remove all the interference of Man
Add the Bible and Ouila
You have a non denominational Christian
(That’s me….I have been both)
Let me ask you first, do you think any Christian church that is not Catholic is nondenominational? The question does kind of read that way.
Non-denominational means to hold no organiztional affiliation to any recognized sect.
Of course they have become larger and more recognized to the point of almost being one.
“nondenominational” in this context refers to ceremonies that are broadly acceptable to most (if not all) Christian sects, of which Catholicism is one.
I.e. It would not adhere to customs or doctrines that were specific to a particular “sort” of Christianity. The standard short wedding ceremony is a good example of this sort of service.
Hopefully your tongue wont cleave to the roof of your mouth
As of now, about 492 years. If you look at this chart:
You will see that Catholicism and Protestantism (what you call “non-denomination Christianity”) split off from each other in the 16th century. Before that point they were the same.
The authority in the Roman Catholic Church is the Pope.
They claim its the “Magisterium”, but since the Pope can and does, on a whim have the power to change dogma, the Pope is THE authority.
The authority for non denominational Christians is Jesus and His book, the Bible.
All other differences stem from that.
Roman Catholic is a religion of works.
Bible based Christianity is base on the facts what God did in the past and faith that God will fulfill the rest of his promises to us later, based on what He said in the Bible.
The term “non-denominational” means a church which not connected to any denomination such as Lutheran or Methodist of Baptist or Catholic.
I have a ten page long Word document which spells out differences between the Bible and the Roman Catechism. I’ll send it to anyone who asks for it. I’ll need your regular E-mail address to send it to you.
Also here is a message about the differences in nine parts:
I’m a nondenominational Christian and I’m not Catholic, anything but Catholic.
Nondenominational Christians don’t follow one certain sect of Christianity, we simply believe in the bible and the Christian god.
Nondenominational means of no denomination. It is usually some sort of watered down version of a mainline Protestant church. A cross between Methodist and Presbyterian sort of thing. But they do not consider themselves part of any group and have no affiliation with a larger organizational body. Not like the R.C. or any other Catholic church. They are not liturgically based.
Catholics Came first.
Catholics has more books in the bible.
Catholics do not worship the Virgin Mary or the saints or the Pope, some other protestants will tell you otherwise.
Being Baptist and also having attended a non-denominational church at one time and having catholic friends see this….
Catholicism believes in Christ as due all denominations of Christianity, but Catholicism also believes that you can pray to mary(mom of Jesus) for her to intercede for you with Christ. This goes for the other saints that they have like St. Jude, St. Francis, etc.
The other denominations non or not believe that when Christ died there was no further need for an intercession between us and God like in the old testament..when Christ died on the cross the curtain of the inner temple that separated man from God was split down the middle to signify this.
Catholics believe there is a way to pray people into heaven from purgatory after they die…other denominations do not..once you’ve passed away your choice is set in stone…or better your name is in the book of life.
I’m sure there are more differences, just do a little research on your own.
No Queen of Heaven, no praying to Angels, Saints, Martyrs, no Infallible Pope, no devotion to relics, no use of the kiss as a sign of reverence for holy objects, no practice of kneeling, no use of candles and incense.
Also no Temples, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holidays and season of devotions, processions, blessing of fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), sacred images and statues… which as Cardinal Newman admits in his book, “The Development of the Christian Religion,” are all of pagan origin…” (Page 359).
Cardinal Newman is correct – all those things came later when the Pagans were absorbed into the Roman church and brought their Pagan traditions, customs and practices with them which the church was only too happy to receive and adopt.
Non denominational means, to me, no denomination whatsoever. Not Catholic, Protestant, Coptic or even an ad hoc group that meets in a community centre basement one Sunday a week at a regular time.
We sometimes belong to shifting groups whose members come and go; drifting from one group to another to avoid egotism of self appointed experts or worse. Meeting now and then in someone’s living room one week or a park if the weather’s nice.
Disadvantages are that messages discussed or presented tend to be picked at random and understanding is not based on continuity. Membership is shifting which leads to a shifting focus and egotism seeks control.
The worst factor seems to be people who quote the bible with great authority while almost never offering a reference where the quote can be found. If, during an ongoing discussion, someone says they’re reminded of something or other but, can’t recall exactly where it can be found, I don’t mind. However, if they are giving a prepared talk and don’t include the reference, I wonder if they have something to hide and drift onward to another group.
Advantages. The interpretations of theologians are not worshipped in place of scripture. Finite human interrpretation which is all too often stated by way too many clergy as being superior to the infinite scripture gifted to us by God the Father and God the Word – (John 1) Who became God the Son and often delivered By God the Holy Spirit.
I have great respect for theologians who have worked in continuity for almost two thousand years and who study in a comprehensive and structured manner.
What bothers me and some others is the ONE AND ONLY FINAL MEANING which is offered as a nice soft and fuzzy solution.
The days of a humble Moses leading God’s people through a 40 year learning experience of trials and tribulations in the wilderness so that they arrive in the Promised Land without the slave mentality they had when they left Egypt. The days of a wild eyed raggedly dressed prophet who stumbles out of the desert munching wild locusts and honey as he proclaims the Lamb of God. The days of Christian passion. They inspiring days of Martyrdom and faith triumphing over persecution. These days are portrayed as safely in our past as we’re encouraged to lie backin our nice lukewarm faith. Revelation 3:16.
I’ve been non denominational from age 11 to 51 until I was baptized Catholic but I still yearn for God’s infinte love and passion.
The Men Who Don’t Fit In
Robert W. Service
There’s a race of men that don’t fit in,
A race that can’t stay still;
So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
And they roam the world at will.
They range the field and they rove the flood,
And they climb the mountain’s crest;
Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,
And they don’t know how to rest.
If they just went straight they might go far;
They are strong and brave and true;
But they’re always tired of the things that are,
And they want the strange and new.
They say: “Could I find my proper groove,
What a deep mark I would make!”
So they chop and change, and each fresh move
Is only a fresh mistake.
And each forgets, as he strips and runs
With a brilliant, fitful pace,
It’s the steady, quiet, plodding ones
Who win in the lifelong race.
And each forgets that his youth has fled,
Forgets that his prime is past,
Till he stands one day, with a hope that’s dead,
In the glare of the truth at last.
He has failed, he has failed; he has missed his chance;
He has just done things by half.
Life’s been a jolly good joke on him,
And now is the time to laugh.
Ha, ha! He is one of the Legion Lost;
He was never meant to win;
He’s a rolling stone, and it’s bred in the bone;
He’s a man who won’t fit in.
Catholics DO NOT worship Mary! So don’t believe people that say that we do.
Right on and Bravo to Yo. I wonder if people who criticize our relationship with Mary have ever read to check on any Catholic literature on the matter; or if they bestow perfection on their (human) spiritual advisors who tell lies about the Catholic faith. If they assume that what these advisors tell them is so perfect – then who is worshipping someone besides God; Yahwah, Yahshua and Ruakh. We don’t worship Mary by asking her to forgive sins, etc., even though we may ask her to pray for us just as some of most (maybe all) Christian faiths occasionally ask their friends and relatives to pray for them.
And, before anyone mentions “Papal infallability” as an example of worship, or some such, maybe they should listen to the entire sentence; “The Pope is infallable …” (don’t stop here) “… when under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.”
Non-denominational Christianity is believing in the personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God, not focusing on religion and rituals like going to confession or being baptized or praying to the saints or to Mary. Too many people get caught up in following Catholicism or Baptist, etc. each with their own separate set of rules created by man that they forget what Christianity is, each individual persons personal relationship with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. As for the saints, the Bible says that we are not to worship idols or anyone or anything else but God. Prayer is a form of worship and by praying to the saints or to Mary it is a sin according to the Bible. The Bible also says that Christ is the one and only mediator between man and God. The saints cannot relay any prayers to God, they are just people of significance that are equal to you and me. In fact, the Bible refers to all of God’s children as saints. I am a child of God, but would you pray to me? Non-denominational christianity is about the personal relationship with Christ, we pray directly to God through Christ without using a priest. The Bible says that Christ is our High Priest. We are welcome to ask other to pray for us but we do not need to go to a confessional to ask for forgiveness. God wants us to go directly to him through his Son, Jesus Christ. Non-denominational christians use the Bible for guidance since it is the Word of God. And the Bible says that the Word of God IS God so if we follow the Word of God we are following God.
Also, there have been many times when the Catholic faith and rules have changed periodically to better suit the current day and age. The Bible says that God is the SAME yesterday today and FOREVER. Any religion that changes is rules and is controlled and run by a man is not the right path to God. I am not one to judge whether catholic people will go to heaven however because God is the only one who decides that. Like I said christianity is based on each individual persons relationship with Christ and with God. I keep in my prayers those who think that it is OK to pray to a normal human being, no different to me, who has been dead for many many years now. The only person who can hear your prayers is God through Jesus Christ. So Im sorry but Mary cannot hear you talking to her. Instead God hears that you are praying to someone other than Him.
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