Why Christians Might Go To Hell
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“Why Christians Might Go To Hell” This is a clip from The Atheist Experience #650 (“Apologetics FAIL. Martin and Tracie talk about the ways Christian apologetics are failures.”) with Tracie Harris and Martin Wagner: blip.tv — Please subscribe to Science & Reason: • www.youtube.com • www.youtube.com • www.youtube.com — What is TheAtheist Experience? The Atheist Experience is a weekly cable access television show in Austin, Texas geared at an atheist and non-atheist audience. The Atheist Experience is produced by the Atheist Community of Austin (ACA), a nonprofit educational corporation to develop and support the atheist community, to provide opportunities for socializing and friendship, to promote secular viewpoints, to encourage positive atheist culture, to defend the first amendment principle of state-church separation, to oppose discrimination against atheists and to work with other organizations in pursuit of common goals. • www.Atheist-Experience.com • http • www.NonProphetsRadio.com Watch The Atheist Experience live • Ustream: tinyurl.com • Channel Austin: tinyurl.com (Sundays 4:30 to 6:00 pm CST / 22:30-24:00 UTC) Support the ACA (donations/membership): • www.Atheist-Community.org • www.Atheist-Community.org • Blog: AtheistExperience.blogspot.com • Wiki www.IronChariots.org • DVDs atheist-community.org • Blip.tv: atheistexperience.blip.tv • Cartoons Atheist-Community.org • E-mail: tv@atheist-community.org .
@Glosuraban Bible god Yahweh did changed, not only he “changed” the pact in the new testament, according to the bible of course, but also he does not infurates over people breaking the new rules like he did with the old ones, you can say whatever you want, but that is change, according to the bible that is, on the other hand, since christians ripped off the jewish religion, yahweh actually didn’t change, christians just made up a new caring polite not murder version of him to get more sheeps =P
@restlys Dude, do it.
@BIG3eM I wanna believe that when i jump off this bridge ima start flying. good idea?
Fear GOD who hath power to cast you into HELL(Luke 12:5)! Fear God and depart from evil(Proverbs 3:7)! God is ANGRY with the wicked everyday(Psalm 7:11)! Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, there is NO OTHER WAY to be saved(John 14:6)! For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved(John 3:17)! TURN FROM YOUR SINS AND SUBMIT 2 THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST NOW! DON’T BOAST OF HAVING TOMORROW! Proverbs 27:1
god can be a natural being or happening or word not yet made, maybe god is “the one who is “I AM”" or all the ones who am “I am.” Question reality because science and spiritual happenings are cool, not because a priest or a teacher told you not to… but logic, leading to do the opposite of alot of media and authority, is standing in most tests.
@Idolcruisefix ?????
why can’t god be a natural phenomenon like how space and gravity seem to be a natural thing and yet are very trippy and complicated and simple. looking at the nature of space alone is enough to make me see alot of things are possible, including a being or event or dream or reality or law or absense of or presance of all and more causing a God that caused itself… answers only leave more questions in my mind, but i’m not brainwashed.
@Shabbernigdo believe what ever it is you want to believe
@Glosuraban really? you can look at animals and other life forms from arround the world and see how that have adapted to suit there climate.
that in its self easily shows how life changes to suit its enviroment.
@BIG3eM people only use that crap for an excuse because they have no proof.
that same argument can be used for faries / unicorns / gnomes etc etc
We may not be able to see them but hey you gotta have faith. Just because theres no proof that they are there dosent mean they arent.
@PageofLegend That’s the most ridiculous notion I’ve encountered yet.
@Glosuraban Thing is, the planet was not perfect to sustain the life, the life changed to survive the planet’s conditions!
you dont need to “verify” God exists because you are meant to have faith that He is does
@happyidiottalk I never intended to talk about God. Who’s the designer is another matter. The point is that, the origin of matter, matter gathering to form life, life evolving in a surrounding perfect to sustain it, is a pretty wild assertion that it is as random as this game of crabs rather than being a grand design.
@Glosuraban Craps is a game of dice. The winning and loosing comes about by the random fall of dice. My point was that if you win, you cant claim you designed that outcome, because you cant control a random event. If you could, it wouldn’t be random.
No I dont believe in god. But unlike you I can think past wild assertions . Your god is just a passing fad, just like Zeus, Rah and Odin ect. I would encourage you to update your thinking, we’re better than this.
@happyidiottalk I don’t know what craps is, English is not my native language. Please explain your parallel between craps and natural selection.
@happyidiottalk I’m not making it up, you fail to understand what I’m saying, or refuse to understand. God is not changing, and He doesn’t need anything, I said that when He chose to take physical form in Christ while at the same time remaining perfect and unchanging in the Father His physical form had to develop from a child to an adult, this is very difficult to explain and in this case very redundant because we cannot talk about God when you don’t believe there is one.
@Glosuraban Furthermore, if god is perfect, why does he need to change over time? That implies he’s not perfect. If he needs to change to become perfect, he cant have been perfect to begin with. And if he is perfect and changes, he can no longer be perfect. Any deviation from perfect would result in imperfection.
You are making it all up as you go alone and talking nonsense.
@Glosuraban I didn’t say evolution was a game of chance. Earlier you talked about DESIGN. Then you said evolution was part of design. I was attempting to show you that if you won at craps by a chance throw of the dice, you cant then claim that your win was designed. So it is with evolution. The variance between members of a species comes about by chance (random mutation). And it is natural selection of these variances that drives evolution, if the variance is beneficial.
@happyidiottalk If evolution was a game of chance, there wouldn’t have been any ecosystems, or any natural systems at all, every animal, plant, insect etc. has a part in a wonderful system that’s made out of many integral systems, is that the same as throwing the dice?
God is perfect and unchanging, His physical design is designed to develop in time, even when God took physical form (Jesus) had to develop from the cradle to the cross.
@Glosuraban You dont understand evolution do you? No two animals of the same species are the same, there are always variations. Variations come about through RANDOM mutation, ie NOT DESIGN! If you’re in a casino and throw a winning hand of dice at craps, you cant claim that you designed that outcome. So it is with evolution.
Well your god is supposed to be perfect and unchanging, so by your logic we shouldn’t have time. But then you’re just making it up as you go along aren’t you.
@happyidiottalk Did u really think that I didn’t accept evolution? Of course u can have it both ways, there’s no collision between God and science. there’s nothing random about evolution. one species mutating into other species on it’s own? If we were created physically perfect and always the same, there would be no need for time, and if God protected us from all the evil we inflict on ourselves (radiation etc.) there would be no need for free will and freedom of choice.
@Glosuraban Now you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too. You cant have it both ways Glosuraban. Evolution by RANDOM mutation and natural selection. Or DESIGN and creation. Which is it?
And god is supposed to be perfect. A perfect being would by definition produce a perfect design. Are we to believe god couldn’t figure out how to protect us from radiation, pollution and our own meals?
@happyidiottalk What we do with our bodies and nature is our own fault. Even eating meat increases the risk for cancer. Let’s not forget that we all, and I do mean all are exposed to radiation and pollution. About those diseases that happen due to genetic errors, well aren’t we still evolving? and design does not exclude evolution, evolution fits as a part of the design, and you haven’t disturbed me a bit, silly little person.
@Glosuraban And what a fantastic design it came up with. Any thoughts on why it decided to include cancer in its design? How about autism and haemophilia? If its design you believe, you have to accept it designed these lovely treats into us. Does creation still give you a nice warm feeling inside? Or do you feel a little disturbed?